Has The Decline Begun?

**bfish** · July 23rd, 2009, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by mah

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I agree with Mark Twain;

"One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact."

**Mike Gibson** · July 24th, 2009, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by bfish

"One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact."

You've been reading my mail Feesh.

**tomt** · July 24th, 2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by mah

Has anyone else noticed the "high-end"/"audiophile" tweakers entering this forum with their unthinking following of psuedo-science? We could end up like the HiEff Asylum which is now a trivial shadow of its old self.
Maybe us older members have just given up on setting the newer(?) generation of Forum members right on some basic physics?

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Marshall.

basic physics, are not really the situation here,

or anywhere, 'that mass advertising', is the 'dominate information medium'.

most people, catch on to the basic stuff -

ohm's law, more power means a bigger electric bill ,

keep your finders out of the sockets, etc ...

Advanced Physics, are out of the reach, of most people.

including, well known, and popular industry leaders.

how many get to the limit, of their own knowledge, then say 'good enough'?

Then get defensive when asked about, WHY equipment sounds different.

'nobody can hear that' 'it all sounds the same' "YOU can't hear that..."

"nobody/you can't hear below 0.1% distortion "

and my favorite,

'that's aerospace stuff!'

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Advanced Physics, which would, could and in some cases, does explain Why,

is ignored, or incomprehensible, to most people.

(and No i'm not real good at math, so how to explain this sort of thing, is beyond me.)

(for now anyway ...)

**valhallax** · July 26th, 2009, 07:16 PM

this place...i stumbled upon via ebay, a seller had it listed as reference. since then ive read all i could and ask more than a few stoopid questions, but i got great answers, in a language i may have had to read 5 or 6 times to get a little glimmer of understanding. very inspiring to read more. as for ivory towers, mine are black, 8ft tall and in the living room

**Kercher** · August 1st, 2009, 11:56 PM

I've noticed the traffic here died down since this thread started. What gives?
Dan

**armandhoff** · August 3rd, 2009, 06:41 AM

at my age my what remains of my hearing won't qualify me as anything connected to sound, but my "bull...." detector still works.

and yes I think a lot of the tube and cable "fanboys" are over the top.

for me there has always been a good enough comfort level.
[about to get diminishing return on one's $$$$]

others may seek improvement beyond reason
bon adventure

**oface1** · August 3rd, 2009, 08:50 AM

Kercher,

The traffic doesn't have anything due to this post.

It is just the time of year.....

-chris

**Panomaniac** · August 3rd, 2009, 11:44 AM

Yep - forums are busiest during the week and in the winter. People goofing off at work do most of the posting, I guess. And the home audio sport always seems dead in the summer.

(me - I goof off all year round)